50 cal patched round ball loads for 44

At the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money. Shooting for small game west virginia wildlife magazine. In talking with the guy he said his best load was with 65 gr of 3f using a. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. Remember that a round ball slows at 100 yards to about 50 60% of its muzzle velocity. For deer, the round ball is imho, a terrible choice. Aug 06, 20 1in 60 is the usual 50 caliber round ball twist but some old originals were as slow as 1 in 72. I have been cutting roughly square pillow ticking patches, and got to thinking. Still, velocities are low enough that range will be limited. First, you need to know if your rifle is best suited for a patched round ball or a conical bullet. Loaded with a light 28 grain load and a round ball, it rivals a modern. Precision swaged to eliminate air pockets and deliver optimal accuracy. I generally save the patched balls for new shooters not hunting loads. Single ball loads single round balls can be loaded in almost any caliber without much.

Shot loads, and small game loads can also be loaded in black powder rifles using. Get the latest information about new products, special deals, news, toprated items, promotions and more. I was using a patched round ball and 80 grains of ffg black powder. The patched round ball group was two inches and the maxi ballet group was. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more. What started as a small dream has become a multimillion dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. This should be a mild load, i ended up with a 90 grain load for my 50 cal using round balls. I always try to load for accuracy and not velocity because if you dont hit it, you havent done anything, no matter how fast your bullet goes. As for accuracy, a man carrying a smoothbore loaded with a tightly patched round ball was virtually equal to a man with a rifle at distances of up to 50 yards. Douglas barrel at 50 yards it will shoot 5 shots into a inch. If you keep to ethical range with muzzleloader and round balls 510 grains isnt going to make a difference. My first muzzleloader deer came in ny back when only a patched round ball was legal. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes.

Mar 31, 2008 at the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money. Do not test any loads of modern powder in your muzzleloader unless you are certain it. But i have a long way to go with many things to try. Discussion in firearms started by jacob huffman, jun 7, 2010. An old rule of thumb for black powder starting loads using round balls is 1 grain volume per caliber ie.

Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. I have a 50 cal tc hawken coming my way with the idea that i might be able to get a muzzleloader tag next year. They should be able to fire round balls to a certain velocity because shot loads are simliar in weight to round ball charges. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. A buddy used the same exact bullet in his 44 mag handgun hunting loads and it performed well there also. Lee round ball molds have the tangential cut off which eliminates the objectionable nib at the sprue. These round balls are cold swaged from pure lead and are exceptionally uniform with no air pockets or voids. Exterior ballistics, recoil calculator, wound channel calculator, stopping power calculators mutiple, round ball weight calculator, powder calculators, and more. Round balls are effective on close range big game animals. A gun smith should be able to fit a 12 bore heavier barrel for you. I was invited to attend a competition type shoot this springsummer that is round ball only, i have 3 different stock 1. Originally posted by swampman700please dont shoot deer with a 110 grain round ball. The buffalo in this photo was taken with the hottest load in the data here for the.

Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges oxyoke wonder wads for muzzleloading shotguns. As a defensive weapon, the fowler could be easily and quickly loaded. My wife and i shot some informal muzzle loader competition many years ago with 50 cal. Loading the plr or muzzleloader with a patched round ball.

Single ball loads single round balls can be loaded in almost any caliber without much fuss and bother with good results. Remember that a round ball slows at 100 yards to about 5060% of its muzzle velocity. I loaded 85 grains of pyrodex and a soft round ball over a polly patch. Muzzleloader round balls lead round balls for sale.

These give a dense shot pattern and increased range, without the need for wet fiber wad. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman. Good evening all, just sitting here musing about a weekend of shooting a new reproduction rifle. Beartooth bullets ballisticians corner round ball weight.

Hornady muzzleloading bullets are ideal for hunting or target shooting with your muzzleloader. Also, the 45 caliber bullets we use in our 50 cal muzzleloaders are not all. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards. Will 1 50 grain pellet kill deer out to 50 yards in a. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 50 60 yards. Several side hammer round ball guns are available in.

For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. Major ferguson of the british army was killed at kings mountain by a 40 ball. This ballistics calculator is a computer simulation which analyzes the behavior of a round ball in its flight from the muzzle to the target.

After that, there seems to be just not enoughspin to get good enough accuracy. Michigan sportsman online michigan hunting and fishing resource. I believe 1 40 was the optimum twist in the old paper patched round ball squirrel guns. Shot loads and snake loads can be loaded in revolvers using wool wads. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity.

The 1,000 pound young bull was hit with right around 1,000 footpound of energy. A little heavy but worth it when the barrel is dirty and it becomes tough to seat a ball. Loaded with 45 and 50 grains it starts to approach the power of a lightend. With 6070 grains of powder it took an evilly tight patch and ball combo that was heck to load to get reasonable accuracy. We load one of our precision long rifles with a patched round ball. Patch thickness, lube, ball size, powder type, powder charge, etc. A onestop resource for your technical ballistic data needs. A round ball is unique among projectiles in that its ballistic characteristics are solely dependant upon its diameter unless its made of something other than lead. I worked up loads starting at 40 grains, finding the sweet spot at 55 grains of. Imagine what happens when you load your gun with a salivalubricated patch and ball. Stock up your favorite black powder supplies like round balls with the wide selection of items we have here at.

Early on, i never had much luck with plasticpatched round ball which my kentucky shooting friends were using, so i went exclusively to maxis since 81. Since pa started allowing other types of ball, i started using a. In that case you may want to look at rifle with a false muzzle, one of my rifles has one a. Cartridge ammunition, pistol, rifle, cowboy action loads by hornady 2. This means that energy levels and thus killing power will be correspondingly low. More than anything else the sabot and socalled magnum loads played a big part in the. I am not new to the tc or maxisminies, just patched round ball prb. Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads. Experiment with various powder loads to determine which gives the best shot group. Round ball loads i became interested in round ball loads and multiple round ball loads several years ago and experimented with them off an on for about a year in both rifles and revolvers.

Bumping a round ball to the proper diameter is the only way to get any accuracy from them. I have taken deer with both but never studied the numbers on these. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. How many grains of gunpowder should i load in my tc 50 cal. It could be loaded with shot for birding or with a round ball for deersize game. You have to decide on black powder or synthetic powder and the bullet or ball you.

Jan 06, 2018 please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. I in 48 is usually an adequate compromise for both. Traditionalmldata2 north american muzzleloader hunting. Larger caliber rifles from 50 caliber on up will probably do better with 2f black powder. Now, pull that round ball and add a 300grain conical and you have a load that approximates the old sharps. My forty ball shooter has taken many deer with 65grs. These can be very accurate if you take time to work up a load for your rifle. Ok then, thinking about this some more, i just pulled my speer reloader 10 manual 1979 and there it is. Hornady muzzleloading bullets round ball midwayusa. Im trying to determine the midrange and point black distances for my. As i said above but should have mentioned my rifle is a. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. You see a patched round ball with the right size ball and patch thickness will work in a 1 in 48 twist if you get just the right speed. Cutting a patch at muzzles end lyman top punch to suit shaver 545g mould cross wind.

I found the ballistics to be similar to my 357mag and 44mag handguns out to that distance. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads and. Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges. The original gunsmiths first making patched round ball rifles.

It starts with the 1 38 twist in my 1894 marlin 44 mag cowboy. Serious target competitors commonly load with a ball thats just. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading. Load a sixpound rifle with a hundred grains of 2f black powder and a 180grain patched. The most common calibers used for target shooting are. To determine that, i shot my fusil dechasse with a variety of loads. My 44s, 31s and 45 cal balls were consistently smaller by.

I have a 50 cal, cva st louis hawken, side lock, 1. Jan 14, 2018 my jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 50 60 yards. I like the idea of traditional round ball hunting, but as i look at published muzzle velocities and consider how fast energy drops off with a sphere in flight it seems like such a choice means effective hunting ranges would be really short. Loaded with 35 to 40 grains it rivals the modern 9mm and. The smooth round surface allows for better rotation and improved accuracy.

A high density, 100% wool felt wad, lubricated with all day wonder lube, that will take the place of the over powder and cushion wad. First, you need to know if your rifle is best suited for a patched round ball or a conical. It is no secret and most books and manufacturers recommend the same loads. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thinpatched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. I shoot patched round ball with 3fg goex in my 50 caliber rifles. Factory brass lighter loads in a 50 cal with 2f 44 cal conicals. One rifle that i owned that got away, with regret, was a cva 50 cal express double barrle. A comprehensive collection of interactive, online ballistics calculators.